OpenSSH/scp ->> F-Secure SSH server Problems

[Markus Friedl]

On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 08:31:48AM -0500, Jeffrey Altman wrote:
> > In this case (i.e. in the case of wanting to "ftp" over SSH) the issue
> > is with the stupid user interface.  Naive users are looking for some SSH
> > file copying tool that works just like their FTP clients, i.e. where
> > they can see a list of files on the server and click/drag/whatever them
> > to effect the copy.
> 
> Why do you need to use FTP over SSH when FTP is "securable" using any
> number of methods?  The most common methods are
> 
>   SSL/TLS
> 
>   GSSAPI 
> 
>   Kerberos
> 
>   SRP
> 
> 
> When using any of these methods both the command and data channels
> used by FTP are authenticated, encrypted and integrity checked.  In
> other words, they are secure.  

so does SFTP. so what's the point?