OpenSSH/scp ->> F-Secure SSH server Problems

Greg A. Woods woods at
Wed Mar 14 14:51:09 EST 2001

[ On Tuesday, March 13, 2001 at 22:20:53 (+0100), Markus Friedl wrote: ]
> Subject: Re: OpenSSH/scp ->> F-Secure SSH server Problems
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 02:20:46PM -0500, Greg A. Woods wrote:
> > There are a zillion ways on most server-type platforms to do such
> > indirection without having to integrate it into SSH, not to mention that
> > almost all of those alternatives would then lead to total independence
> > of SSH and thus total portability across all generic transport protocols.
> sftp _is_ total independeny of SSH and runs portable across
> all generic transport protocols.

Well, maybe, but sftp, at least in SSH, currently relies on the
"built-in subsystem" feature.

I'm sure you could rip it out and make it stand alone (eg. work over
rsh), but hmmm... wouldn't doing so also make it independent of the
"built-in subsystem" in SSH?  Duh!  So yes:

> > The "built-in subsystem" feature is bad design.  It has no business
> > being directly in the transport protocol.  It is an ugly wart.
> tell ietf-ssh at, not me, i don't care.

I tried but the address either you or someone else supplied originally
in this thread contained a typo and my message bounced.  :-)

							Greg A. Woods

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