[PATCH] Add scp -1 and -2 options to OpenSSH-3.0.2p1

[Lacoss-Arnold, Jason]

Nothing wrong with the code as much out our crappy implementation.  We've
got horrendous ssh_config and sshd_configs that don't integrate well with
each others or the OS's we support.  X11 forwarding is fundamentally broken,
paths are poor, uselogin is inconsistant, etc.  It's pretty much a recipe
for everyone avoiding ssh like the plague, esp since while info security and
my group (unix architecture) were wise enough to mandate that ssh must go on
all servers, they forgot to mandate that telnet, ftp, and r* had to come
off.  Plus the dunderheads in info security like obfuscation so much that
they mandated that we use a non-standard port which they were unfortunately
not clueful enough to avoid high ports, so it'd be trivial to for a normal
user to put a trojaned daemon on a box that's not running ssh.

*sigh*  Doing things right is a never-ending battle.

Thanks,
--Jason Lacoss-Arnold, Systems Technical Specialist
Technical Services - Unix Arch.
314-955-8501


-----Original Message-----
From: Markus Friedl [mailto:markus at openbsd.org]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 11:20
To: Lacoss-Arnold, Jason
Cc: 'mouring'; Wichert Akkerman; openssh-unix-dev at mindrot.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add scp -1 and -2 options to OpenSSH-3.0.2p1


On Mon, Jan 28, 2002 at 10:46:59AM -0600, Lacoss-Arnold, Jason wrote:
> Personally, I wish it was in the current release as it'd greatly aid our
> migration efforts (from a poorly done 2.5.1 implementation)

what's wrong with 2.5.1 ?

> and is a lot
> easier to communigate to clueless users.
> 
> We've finally managed to piggyback a real ssh deployment onto a high
profile
> project, and some of the user education is really sucking.
> 
> Thanks,
> --Jason Lacoss-Arnold, Systems Technical Specialist
> Technical Services - Unix Arch.
> 314-955-8501
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mouring [mailto:mouring at etoh.eviladmin.org]
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 9:48
> To: Wichert Akkerman
> Cc: openssh-unix-dev at mindrot.org
> Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add scp -1 and -2 options to OpenSSH-3.0.2p1
> 
> 
> > Previously Markus Friedl wrote:
> > > why do you need -1 and -2?
> > 
> > Users want it, and it's very useful in situations where you need
> > to specifiy the version due to existing keys, old servers, etc.
> > 
> 
> #1 - OpenSSH/OpenBSD is not Debian.  What you do to the source is your 
> business, but you only add to the confusion (if there is any at all).  
> 
> #2 - In TWO years of helping people with ssh compiling, configuring, and
> using.  I've seen SIX people (80% of them are on this list!) whine about
> lack of -1/-2.  The others where happy to use -oProtocol=[12] to do their
> job.
> 
> NOW please.. tell me.. *WHERE* are these MASSES of people crying out for
> the -1/-2 option for scp?  SIX people out of almost a thousand plus
> people I've interacted with.
> 
> <sigh>  Waste of time..
> 
> - Ben
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