Another SSH client on Windows

Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] cal.leeming at simplicitymedialtd.co.uk
Mon Dec 10 22:33:32 EST 2012


Peter, can you reply off-list, thanks.

Cal

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:37 AM, Peter Stuge <peter at stuge.se> wrote:

> Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] wrote:
> > > > * Opening too many tabs will result in
> "LIBSSH2_ERROR_CHANNEL_FAILURE"
> > >
> > > As was mentioned this is the server rejecting your new channel.
> >
> > This should be nicely hidden by opening another connection then in
> > the event of channels running out.
> >
> > Think outside the box :)
>
> It's not about any box.
>
> Creating a new session automatically is what *you* want, but it may
> be wildly inappropriate in any number of scenarios, so it is not a
> reasonable default.
>

Please provide an example of how this would be "wildly inappropriate"


>
>
> > > So start looking at, or even thinking about, what is required to do
> > > it, and start sending patches. Again, you'll find that a general
> > > solution is not possible.
> >
> > Actually, it is. One method has already been described by the OP.
>
> What was described is no general solution.
>

Duh.


>
>
> > I am not a C coder (8 years python dev), so I cannot contribute patches.
>
> How deep is your operating system knowledge? The problem is on that
> level, so hopefully you've been using python for lots of OS things,
> because it would help to model this problem.
>
> Every interactive session is a shell process started by sshd.
>
> The current working directory is a per-process property.
>
> It is inappropriate for an SSH client to make assumptions about
> any processes on the server which the client does not control.
>
> Interactive sessions are by definition not such processes; they are
> controlled by the user.
>
> It was mentioned before on this list, maybe several times, that there
> is no standardized API for a process (sshd) to find the cwd of one of
> it's child processes (your shell) - and of course even if OpenSSH did
> that, it is still no general solution, because other SSH servers may
> not be able to do it.
>
> I suggest that you create a subsystem which enumerates every other
> channel the invoking user currently has opened in sshd, and looks
> up their cwd.
>
> (SSH subsystems speak a protocol which you define on stdio.)
>
> You can make this an @openssh.com subsystem and if implemented
> within sshd it would work fabulously, but that is *still* no
> general solution.
>
> A general solution needs to work regardless of which sshd is being
> used. That constraint means that python is just as good a tool as any
> other for creating the solution.
>
> I say a general solution is not possible.
>
> You can prove me wrong by sending patches with new python files which
> do it.
>

Sure, let me just put this on my list of 9834955 todo items to look at
sometime in the future ;)


>
>
> //Peter
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