ssh-pkcs11.c

Alon Bar-Lev alon.barlev at gmail.com
Mon Jul 25 17:38:33 AEST 2016


Hi,

I am not the maintainer of openssh pkcs11 module, so I cannot accept anything :)

However, I do believe that empty PIN is a valid PIN in PKCS#11 spec.

Regards,
Alon

On 25 July 2016 at 09:56, Nuno Gonçalves <nunojpg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Alon,
>
> I confirmed with pkcs11-tool (from OpenSC) and I can confirm that
> pressing return when asked for the pin causes the login to stop (and
> not to try a empty pin).
>
> Can you confirm if a empty pin is actually a valid pin, and if not,
> can the patch be accepted?
>
> Once again, the problem is that from a user experience, *some/most*
> users would expect they can skip pkcs11 token authentication just by
> pressing return and trying then other authentication method, like
> password.
>
> But currently that is not what happens, and users can find out too
> late that they have instead tried a wrong pin too many times and
> locked their token...
>
> Regards,
> Nuno
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 10:04 PM, Alon Bar-Lev <alon.barlev at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 17 June 2016 at 22:45, Nuno Gonçalves <nunojpg at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 7:57 PM, Alon Bar-Lev <alon.barlev at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On 17 June 2016 at 20:58, Nuno Gonçalves <nunojpg at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> It seems there is a bug with the pkcs11 feature where a zero-length
> >>>> PIN is accepted. I believe this is a bug, since the user might want to
> >>>> press return when asked for the PIN to ignore that slot/key.
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Empty PIN is valid case, not sure why you want to avoid supporting it.
> >>>
> >>> Alon
> >>
> >> I didn't know it was valid but the reasoning still applies. I don't
> >> really know the standard use cases, but I think it could eventually be
> >> useful for the user, when asked for the PIN, to decide not enter it.
> >> Currently it can only be done by killing ssh. If empty PIN is valid,
> >> but eventually not usual, maybe we should ask if the user really wants
> >> to try a empty pin or just continue to another authentication option?
> >
> > Not sure what best solution, but ignoring empty PIN is the same as
> > ignoring "cancel" or similar constants, which is more explicit.
> > What's wrong with plain <Ctrl>-C, as without PIN there is no use to
> > continue session anyway.
> >
> >> Regarding the CKF_USER_PIN flags, do you think it is a good idea to
> >> implement the warning messages?
> >
> > Most implementations do not support these.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Alon


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