Current behavior to set DSCP EF code point by default is harmful

[Damien Miller]

On Fri, 10 Apr 2026, matt at theaddisons.us wrote:

> The agenda is protecting networks which aren’t as well deployed as
> Job’s, which is the vast majority of them. Because the majority of
> networks out there don’t have the luxury of a dedicated OOB/DCN
> like you’d see deployed by the settlement free club that Job’s
> $DAYJOB is a member of where EF can be used without impacting other
> services.

It's not appropriate to bring in the specifics of Job's employment
here. Please keep this about the engineering and not people.

> I mostly came here out of concern for other networks
> (not so much my own production network, since we don’t guarantee
> QoS in our IP backbone after we divested our SIP services) in
> response to someone asking the opinions of other more enterprise
> focused network administrators on reddit, and the suggestion
> that *someone* should bring this to the attention of this list:
> https://www.reddit.com/r/networking/comments/1sb9yua/opinions_on_qos_in_openssh/
>
> Some of the people there were a little more passionate than I was
> in their opposition. And no, I'm not the poster suggesting physical
> violence against the people that thought this was wise (not that I
> think they were that that serious about it).

Well, that's just wildly out of line. That guy is fantasising about
commiting violence against me, specifically.

You can see how this is problematic too and doesn't help your
argument, right?

-d