Gary E. Miller gem at rellim.com
Fri Jul 21 09:14:31 EST 2000

Yo Pekka!

On Thu, 20 Jul 2000, Pekka Savola wrote:

> On Thu, 20 Jul 2000, Gary E. Miller wrote:
> > Just do what I do.  Use the spiffy graphical FTP of your choice
> > on your NT box.  Then just config your ssh connection to tunnel
> > your plain old FTP protocol to the remote host.
> > 
> > Voila!  And fully standards compliant.
> Yes.  This is very usually done.  However, there are some difficulties.
> - data channels cannot be encrypted.
True.  I am far more worried about my password than the data but
this is a problem for many.  This could (should) be fixed in SSH.

> - you have to have a working shell account as well as ftp account (I think
> with sftp it could be restricted)
Well, it is not called the "Secure Shell" protocol for nothing.
Not sure why you need an "ftp account".  You do not mean an anonymous
ftp account do you?  And ftpd only need only accept connections from

> - When you want to transfer files, you have to use SSH first.  This seems
> like an unnecessary procedure for newbie'ish people.
That is what scripts are for. :-)  True, it should be easier.

IMHO, the world does not need yet another file transfer protocol.

We should fix OpenSSH to work with the file transfer protocol we have 
to fix the rough spots.  UNIX works because it does not keep reinventing
the wheel but instead building on prior work.

Gary E. Miller Rellim 20340 Empire Ave, Suite E-3, Bend, OR 97701
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