[PATCH]: Patch to fix hang on exit bug under Linux and add optional exit delay

Gert Doering gert at greenie.muc.de
Fri Nov 16 03:22:58 EST 2001


Hi,

On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 08:55:07AM -0500, Peter W wrote:
> > > allow data loss in the server if a pty is allocated. i think
> > > this would match the telnetd and rlogind behaviour best.
> > 
> > I would accept this, and prefer it to "I have run something in the
> > background that I know will not create output but fails to close
> > stdin/stdout/stderr and now I can't log out cleanly".
> And the problem with simply killing the ssh client application is?

I assume that you're talking about the *children*, not the ssh client.

Problem is: you don't know who they are.

> I think there's a significant amount of disagrement on this issue,
> to say the least. With the core argument distilling to a question of
> Integrity vs Convenience, I've got a hard time siding with Convenience.
> SSH is not telnet, and I wouldn't like to see it twisted in a way
> that is (clearly!) arguablya step backwards for Convenience sake.

Is it?  People not doing things over SSH because they do not work 
(like "restart this daemon that is broken and doesn't close stderr")
and using other channels instead isn't a step forwards either.

I always thought of ssh as a drop-in replacement for telnet/rlogin that
just happens to be more secure.

gert
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