On Tue, Aug 06, 2002 at 11:33:36AM +1000, Carl Brewer wrote: > Unfortunatly, Michael, you're wasting your time. None of the > developers will see it from a 'real user' perspective. Purity > vs practicality, and purity wins. no, you are wrong. but you are just seeing your positing, where 'hang' is a problem and 'data loss' is not. -m